John Stossel's racist attack on tribes as 'freeloaders': A farrago of ignorance and lies
I grew up a few miles north of the Shoshone-Bannock reservation in southern Idaho, and was exposed as a child to the very visceral bigotry against Native Americans that has been part of the landscape in the West for the past 150 years or more. I remember the bar downtown that had a sign in the window: "No Dogs or Drunk Indians Allowed." I heard them cursed and laughed at, watched them being abused, and watched them destroy themselves with alcohol too.
What was really entrenched, though, was the stereotype: Indians were crazy, unpredictable drunks who were lazy and always looking for a handout.
But over the course of my career as a newspaper reporter in the West, I was assigned coverage of tribal affairs on two different reservations (the Sho-Ban in Idaho and the Flatheads in Montana) and spent large sums of time on other reservations near where I worked and lived, including the Blackfeet res in Montana, the Nez Perce and Coeur d'Alenes in Idaho, and more recently, the Makah res in western Washington.
I learned a lot of things doing that work: I learned that treaty rights are irrevocable and supreme law, and whites can only mess with them at their own peril. I learned that no two tribes are alike: some are wealthy, some are not. I also learned that they all deal with powerful social issues arising from their status as the remnants of people who were the victims of a genocidal campaign of extermination, outrageous deceptions, and a ceaseless treatment by their conquerors as subhuman.
Most of all, I learned that the stereotype was a lie: The people who lived on reservations were often deeply impoverished and there was a high alcoholism rate, but they were very hard workers (though I will say they had their own unique work ethic), highly intelligent, with a great deal of pride. Many of them were capable of climbing out of the morass into which they had been thrown -- but not all. Given the conditions into which they have been born -- deep poverty, a forced inability to make a living as tribes did traditionally (through sustenance hunting and gathering), and the ongoing failure of the federal government to make good on its treaty promises to the tribes -- that shouldn't surprise anyone.
Yet this weekend, on John Stossel's Fox News show, there was Stossel, rehabilitating that lie and giving it fresh clothing: The show, titled "Freeloaders," was all about how those chiseling Indians are constantly on the lookout for bigger handouts, and it clearly implied they were lazy bums whose federal dole should be axed.
It was an expansive version of the remarks he made last weekend along these lines, once again claiming that "no group in America has been more helped by the government than the American Indians ... But 200 years later, no group does worse."
As Nicole noted at the time, it was really a profound display of ignorance, and it intensified this week: Stossel -- like his libertarian idol, Rand Paul -- seems to advocate simply tearing up and abrogating those treaties -- as though that were a legal option. (I also enjoyed how he called the people who are demanding the government live up to those treaties "socialists" -- as if "socialism" existed in the period, 1824-1870, that the vast majority of the these treaties, which promised to provide sustenance help from the federal government in perpetuity, were made.)
Stossel, moreover, seems utterly ignorant of the historical reality that European diseases, fueled by white Americans' malign neglect of Native Americans, in the centuries prior to 1800 wiped out over three-quarters of the indigenous population and thus cleared the way for white settlement of the continent. There were, of course, surviving tribes who resisted futilely -- but they were largely rubbed out and forced onto these reservations. They finally agreed to cease hostilities when the government promised to provide for them.
But those promises, especially in the early years after the treaties were signed, were mostly deceptions intended to "control" the Indians, and for decades the government failed to meet the terms of their treaties, often resulting in mass starvation on the reservations -- followed by uprisings that were always violently suppressed. One such incident resulted in the Wounded Knee Massacre at the very Pine Ridge reservation that Stossel holds up for ridicule:
How much "help from the federal government" can one tribe take?
Stossel's account was also riddled with falsehoods in the particulars of the case he held up as an example -- the Lumbee Tribe of North Carolina, who Stossel claims have actually prospered by virtue of the fact that they do not have full federal recognition.
Of course, Stossel doesn't explain that, in fact, the Lumbees became a federally recognized tribe in 1956 -- but the bill doing so contained language restricting them from having reservation land and other benefits of full federal recognition. Lumbee tribal members are in fact fully eligible for a number of federal assistance programs, and the majority of the tribe participates in these special benefits: federal housing assistance, school grants, health services, and the like. Indeed, since they are one of the largest tribes east of the Mississippi, with 50,000 members, the Lumbees rank among the largest recipients of federal tribal-aid dollars in the East.
The biggest lie, though, was the larger picture that Stossel was trying to present: His depiction of the Lumbee community as extraordinarily wealthy and well off focused on a few wildly successful individuals, while ignoring the harsh reality that is life in Lumbee country. For example, Robeson County, the center of Stossel's story, is in fact the poorest county in North Carolina, having a majority nonwhite populace.
You know the town of Pembroke, the community where Stossel shot much of this segment? There, the percentage of families who live below the poverty line is 40.7 percent.
As Rob at Newspaper Rock observes:
Let's break it down for Stossel the conservative idiot. The Lumbee tribe has been seeking federal recognition for decades. This means that dozens of elected Lumbee tribal councils have sought federal recognition, which means the majority of Lumbee Indians must support recognition. Compared to that, who cares what somebody named Ben Chavis says?
Most of the nation's 565 recognized tribes could list businesses similar to the three Lumbee successes Stossel lists. Yet not one of them is demanding to be terminated and "set free." Not one of them wants to disband the BIA, sell its reservation, or eliminate its sovereignty. Not one of them is ready to abandon its treaty rights, which is the source of the government programs Stossel mislabels "freeloading."
Once in a while you do hear reactionary Indians who want to sell out their heritage, assimilate into the mainstream, and become just like the white man. I may have heard such calls a few times. Let's say five or so Indians want to do this...and five million or so don't. Stossel may be too stupid to realize it, but he's losing the debate 1,000,000 to one. For every Indian who agrees with him, roughly a million don't.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. What conservatives like Stossel, Bryan Fischer, Rush Limbaugh, Sarah Palin, Glenn Beck, Michele Bachmann, Pat Buchanan, Rand Paul, et al. are doing is obvious--to me, at least. These Tea Party Republicans are launching hateful, racist attacks on Indians and other minorities to see what they can get away with. It's like launching a trial balloon for white supremacy.
That sounds on the money to me.
Hey Johnny Boy, show me a treaty with Native Americans that the US Government has not broken.
SFI
How has Stossel avoided an entry in Dickipedia? Amazing how these guys can always find another group to hate!
the "wrestling is fake" video should be the only footage of stossel posted...ever. No matter what the current subject.
Loved that video!!!
Stossel will always get attention from weirdos because he used to do those "bad business" segments and then changed his mind, realizing he'd rather protect business than individuals. To these people it proves that he knows what he's talking about, that he had some sort of epiphany.
My thought is that he's always been a sleazeball with an agenda.
The latest scapegoats for the American Nazi Party.
for not being born white. We must eradicate them as well.
Humpty Dumpty was pushed.
Is hodgepodge not good enough for you now that you are off the reservation?
"3 protesters barely on our property chained to a...drum...not causing any problems so I told the guys to just monitor them and let them freeze."
Shocking document revealing Fed attack on Occupy Portland 11/6/11
I respect the writers on Crooks and Liars a lot, but they all have one common failing: They all refer to Ron Paul, John Stossel, Rand Paul and their ilk as "libertarians". They are the same "small government" social conservatives as all the others and they are only self professed "libertarians". As they say, repeat the lie enough people, even the writers on C & L, start to believe it as truth.
Could we please designate them as "self professed" libertarians at worst?
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they're all Cheap Labor Conservatives. Everything that they profess to believe in boils down to one thing. Make the cost of labor as cheap as possible. CEO's, banksters, Wall Street pirates and stockholders just can't make enough profit. They want what's theirs, and they want what's yours, too. Living up to treaties with Native Americans threatens to move money away from them to somebody whom they think doesn't deserve it . In their minds NOBODY, besides them, deserves anything.
You might want to take a look at my post I did last night: The Unholy Union
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I usually try to put scare quotes around "libertarian" when I refer to the Pauls (forgot to this morning), and should do so with Stossel too. They're just Randian right-wing nutcases. And in the case of the Pauls (dunno about Stossel) what we're really talking about is Birchers with a Randian facade.
I'll try to remember.
I normally try not to nitpick like that, but it infuriates me to see them called libertarians when they are anything but. They wrap themselves in the cloak of libertarianism to shield themselves from valid criticism about their flagrant social conservatism. As long as the Pauls and their ilk believe that a woman doesn't have the right to choose, that gays should not have equal rights, that marijuana shouldn't be legalized and that corporations are people, they can never rightfully be called libertarians.
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to call them libertarians, because they are. They belong to libertarian organizations, they espouse libertarian quackery. (SInce when WASN'T endlessly wanking about small government a libertarian schtick?
They may be the worst of what libertarians have to offer, but they are certainly within the spectrum of libertarianism. I don't think you know what the that word means.
between the aboriginal experience in the US and Canada. The feature article of the Globe and Mail today was largely on this subject regarding Nunavut ( http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/... ) The results don't seem to be much different whether or not the intentions of the government were good or evil.
Hasa Diga Eebowai
We wouldn't even let them leave America - nah, better to kill a bunch more on unheated rail cars and with disease in OK, instead of letting the "Red Napoleon" (words Stossel's friends of old would use) just LEAVE.
In tribute to that Johnny the Prick:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdqrEcUhWNE
Ironically - before Johnny's smack down, the report fights against business treating the labor poorly...
and now: he is anti union. What a whore... (up sorry, that is an insult to sex workers)
Lol, can't ever tire of seeing Johnny' expression before he ran down the hall.
The Lumbee Act of 1956 prevented the Lumbee from ever achieving full federal recognition under the guidelines of the Bureau of Indian Affairs seven criteria for recognition.
The only way they will ever achieve full recognition is by congressional action which has come up several times recently and never been fully acted upon.
This country committed a nearly complete genocide of the Native people. How do you make up for something that horrible.I'd like to ask Stossell what would make up for the massacre of his entire family. I'm afraid his reply would be "cash".
...let's not forget forcing many tribes off fertile lands (which whites quickly claimed for their crops, livestock, or mines) and onto reservations on lands where not many whites particularly wanted to live because it didn't have much to offer. One of the reasons why poverty is high among many Native American tribes is because we wanted it that way -- we didn't want to risk giving them a chance of being equal to us. Let's also not forget that many of these forced migrations (such as the Trail of Tears) added insult to injury because they were carried out in the middle of winter so that in some cases, anywhere between one-fifth and one-third of the population died en route. To quote the old Native American proverb, Stossel -- especially as a child of relative privilege who was fortunate to attend a school like Princeton -- should try walking a mile in another man's moccasins before he's so quick to judge other people, since I very much doubt that he has any inkling of what it's like to grow up poor (and especially as part of a marginalized minority). For that matter, considering that he was raised in a Jewish family and that Jewish people have been a target of prejudice in this country as well as genocide elsewhere, his blatant bigotry toward Native American people is despicable and contemptible.
Never trust anyone who insists that patriotism requires you to blindfold yourself with the flag.
the son of a bitch, smirky, smug, bastard. the way we treated the natives, it is horrible, we honored like 2 out of 365 treaties, something like that. we pushed them to the most marginal land.
indians have rights by treaty, treaties they fought and died to get, we gave them nothing, they bled for very single concession, i want to hit something sooo bad.............
it bears pointing out that the blacks, orientals, mexicans, indians, that have been oppressed by the "white man" were primarily oppressed by a minority of white people, and that it was railroads, cattle barons and such that made out like bandits. i don't want to get into the whole privileged class discussion....
goddamn john stossel and his "socialists sucking off the government tit" bullshit. his voice, just listening to it, makes me want to go crazy.
just saying.
asians. you get my drift. i just get upset for some reason about native-american issues. so many brave people, tecumseh, osceola, geronimo, these were my childhood heroes.
Understandably so. I remember one of my favorite books as a kid was an illustrated history of American Indians. It explained the differing cultures and beliefs - and since it was a kids book left out all of that nasty genocide stuff.
As for orientals vs. asians, I know some asians that would lay into you if you said that.
Ok, but Indians [from India] are Asians too are they not? So are we not bunching them together with Indians?
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
by westerners/europeans who then used that name to denote the inhabitants. There are many Asians who resent being called Orientals and I would imagine for good reason. In general it shows a lack of eastern knowledge and at worst a bias.
Someone a while ago argued that calling someone who's Chinese a Chinaman had the same connotations as calling some from Germany a German man. Not exactly.
not a person
Before enlightenment - chop wood, carry water. After enlightenment - chop wood, carry water.
..it translates to "Of the east". Persian=Oriental, Gallic=Occidental.
It originally applied only to Anatolia, the Levant, Egypt. Arabia and Persia- what the Romans (the word is Latin, after all) knew to be east of their own lands.
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
you know there are no pictures of crazy horse? there is a spurious picture that is most probably his wife's second husband, as was the custom for second husbands of famous men's wives, they would take on the first husbands name. crazy horse was unrelenting, as a child he was not strong, he did what he did by force of will.
good book on crazy horse
Crazy Horse: The Strange Man of the Oglalas.
http://www.nebraskapress.unl.edu/product/Craz...
most of the right wing yahoos get theirs - they pull it out of their butts.
The government still falls short in its dealing with Native American. But to claim what Stossel is claiming is wrong. There is no shortage of a racism for Native Americans to deal with. Just go and read what Jack Abramoff said about the Tiguas in El Paso.
I notice Stossel sports the same smartass smirk worn by Scott Walker, the pig governor of Wisconsin.
a certain amount of corporate cash is shoved up the ass. I'm not privy to the amount...
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
The NAs there are doing pretty well with the advent of the casinos. They have had oil wealth in the past and some of the nations may still have it, but much of it was taken from them fraudulently. And yet the NAs in that part of the country are largely conservative politically just like the rest of the state and region. It's like my Latina friend who is a republican. It's a puzzle to me.
One would think that Stossel would embrace the Native Americans... they have their own government, they live simply and independently and are basically free. As a libertarian, Stossel once wrote:
"...By contrast, libertarians want government to leave people alone -- in both the economic and personal spheres. Leave us free to pursue our hopes and dreams, as long as we don't hurt anybody else..."
Isn't that what NA's do?
Only when the last tree has died
and the last river has been poisoned and the last fish has been caught
will we realize we cannot eat money.
Right... because the US government has done nothing but leave Native Americans alone...
I rolled my eyes so hard they broke.
asshole would say about any thing. the best day was when this dip-shit got knocked on his ass by a Pro from the wwf?? he ran away like a little bitch he is, it was great.
Sues the WWF for a half-million, but, you know, frivolous punative lawsuits are bad! You know... for thee, not for me, obviously.
Oh, according to the wikipedia entry "he deeply regrets it". So, he gave the money back to the WWF? He declined the check?
Methinks he deeply regrets the hookers and blow he wasted it on.
WWF as in World Wildlife Fund or WWF as in the former World Wrestling Federation (now World Wrestling Entertainment = WWE)?
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after he called him a "fake".
Such are the dangers, when one does the public a service and uncovers the den of lies that is "Professional Wrestling". Give me a BREAK! :P
I'm imagining it goes something like:
These Indians came to our country, and they don't want to integrate? Why don't they just go back to India? Gimme a break!
We have to honor our contracts with them, even though we could just crush them like bugs? Gimme a break, where is the army?
Round THESE parts, "Custer" is a cuss-word. Can you say UN-american? Gimme a break!
Injuns are a fad, why is the government wasting trillions! GIMME A BREAK!
*Seriously, though, I guess 20/20 and FoxNews weren't enough of a break for Stossel*
It must've been the Native Americans who originated that scariest thing one could hear someone say: "I'm from the government, and I'm here to help you."
Heheh. Actually it was cheap labor conservatives. They believe in social hierarchy and privilege, so the only prosperity they want is limited to them. Governments serve to bring prosperity all of us.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
Farrago...farrago...go get em...go get em go...go get em...farrago...
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
If by "helped" you mean the victims of genocide.
don't seem to have a problem reading and understanding the constitution let alone history. Look at a map of Indian lands prior to 1492 versus today fuckwad. Native Americans traded land for benefits, twit. Everything Tribal communities get, they are owed. Oh that's right, in Stossleland, only rich white motherfuckers need to be paid what they're owed.
Actually, they gave up those lands and moved onto the reservations to survive.
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...is that it's often self-justifying and therefore self-sustaining. Assigning pejorative characteristics to a particular group of people -- often for no better reason than because someone else taught you to hate them, or because you egotistically assume that you're the benchmark for what constitutes "normal" -- gives you a very convenient excuse to regard yourself as superior and view them as immoral or abnormal. And of course, since these people are immoral and abnormal, you also have a convenient excuse to keep your distance from them and to go on despising them without ever feeling guilty or bothering to get to know them as individuals because anyone who's as bad as they are simply doesn't deserve it. Of course, the real irony is that most conservatives like Stossel consider themselves to be Christians...but no Christian who genuinely understands the true principles of their faith would allow themselves to think or act this way, because the New Testament very explicitly warns Christians to focus on their own thoughts and actions rather than judging the behavior of other people (and I think that would go double for people they don't personally know)
Never trust anyone who insists that patriotism requires you to blindfold yourself with the flag.
Whenever I hear Stossel's smarmy little voice I go and watch this again: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrX9Ca7LSyQ
My only question is how can I persuade the weasel to interview this guy again.
Stossel attempts to dismiss any criticism of his hit job by asserting at the beginning that the government took Indian lands "hundreds of years ago" when much of the taking is scarcely more than 100 years past. But why let facts get in the way of an yet more Fox scapegoating, finger pointing and targeted minority castigation?
The worst part of this is I hear educated people actually spouting angry retorts citing this kind of thinly veiled Fox News bigotry, as if these people are responsible for their own personal frustration and anxiety.
A pox on you and Stossle.
there is a special place in the lowest depths of hell for putrid shit heel. He does not even rate the term 'human'. What happens in a mans past to bring him to this level of depraved indifference to humanity?
We went to the same speech clinic at different times. It worked well for him.
of the Americas have contributed much to the world...
as noted in Jack Weatherfords, 'Indian Givers'.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Givers:_H...
Ya ta hey!
our system of government calls on native practices.
they were ahead of us in many ways.
How long and hard did Stossel have to look to find a conservative Indian banker?
stossel is a dick
he could never have done this piece on abc....never would have passed standards and practices as it is filled with half truths and outright lies
Found what he was looking for, blind to everything else. What a hateful little maggot.
Even if I didn't have aboriginal blood (Metis on my mother's side), I'd still think Stossel was a filthy c***sucker. This just ups the ante.
"crazy, unpredictable drunks who were lazy and always looking for a handout"
So beck and Rush are Native Americans?
I've recommended him to Rolling Stone's Supreme Court of Ass&&&&-dom.
Notes: words and music by Malvina Reynolds; copyright 1958 Schroder Music Company, renewed 1986. In the Notes to her songbook Little Boxes and Other Handmade Songs Malvina writes: "In the town of Maxton, N. C., in March 1958, the Ku Klux Klan planned a rally to take down the Lumbee Indians of the area who seemed to think they had some rights--they had their own mayor of their own town, and lived on good terms with the people thereabouts."
Now brave the Klansmen rallied there
In Maxton town that night,
All armed with knives and pistol guns
And honin' for a fight.
Oh, rally round, you Klansmen bold,
But do not show your face.
We'll burn the fiery cross tonight
And save the Nordic race.
Chorus:
Oh the Klan,
Oh the Klan,
It calls on ev'ry red blood fighting man
Who is free and white and bigot,
Gets his courage from a spigot,
And protects his racial purity the very best he can.
The Indians, the Indians,
They are our natural foe,
They lure our girls with coke and pie
And take them to the show,
They wear blue jeans and leather coats,
But anyone can see,
They are not real Americans
The like of you and me.
The heroes left their stores and plows,
Their pool-halls and their bars,
And in their gallant hooded shirts
They drove up in their cars,
For in this grave emergency
That mustered every soul,
Who should appear to lead the fight
But Wizard Jimmy Kole!
Now as the cars were drawing in
An ominous sound was heard.
Was that an Indian battle cry
Or just a gooney bird?
Is that a gooney bird I see
Or grandpa's fighting cock,
Or is it a Lumbee war bonnet
That comes from Chimney Rock?
(Chorus)
The headlights shone, the Klansmen stood
In circle brave and fine,
When suddenly a whoop was heard
That curdled every spine,
An Indian youth with steely eyes,
Sauntered in alone,
He calmly drew his shootin' iron
And conked the microphone.
Another shot, the lights went out,
There was a moment's hush,
Then a hundred thousand Lumbee boys
Came screaming from the brush.
Well, maybe not a million quite,
But surely more than four,
And the Klansmen shook from head to foot
And headed for the door.
The Lumbee Indians whooped and howled
In the ancient Lumbee way,
And the Klansmen melted off the ground
Like snow on a sunny day.
Our histories will long record
That perilous advance,
When many a Klansman left the field
With buckshot in his pants.
(Chorus)
The coppers listened from afar,
They did not lift a gun.
They heard the noise, they said, "The boys
Are having a little fun."
But when they saw the nightshirt lads
Trooping down the road,
They knew that something went amiss,
The wrong switch had been throwed.
When the coppers reached the battlefield,
They saw no single soul;
In Pembroke town, the Indians
Were hanging Jimmy Kole.
Not James himself, for he had fled
With his shirt-tail waving free,
But all the joyful Lumbee boys,
They hanged his effigy.
Final Chorus:
Oh the Klan,
Oh the Klan,
They've hung their little nightshirts in the can,1
If you want to see them run,
Shoot a pistol toward the sun,
And give an Indian warwhoop like a joyful Lumbee man.
The truth will set you free but can you handle the truth?
....is BEYOND irritating.
That silly, childish, sing-songy rise and fall to his voice is SO unprofessional. How the FUCK does this guy stay employed??
Just 'Cos You Got the Power...THAT DON'T MEAN YOU GOT THE RIGHT!
My best friend was Indian and we lost her far too early because of the poverty and malnutrition of her early days. She was a remarkable woman who was loved by everyone she ever met and fought for justice all her life. She traveled the world and met presidents and paupers and made the world a better place for all of us,even a dickhead like John Stossel.
I am three-quarter Eastern Band Cherokee and Crow Nation mixed blood, and to think that this evil man - John Stossel - is denigrating my people, it just makes me sick.
Hey, Mr. Stossel, since you speak with a forked tongue, let me tell you this: if you break your treaty with many of the Indians, what Sitting Bull did to Custer and the 7th Cavalry at Little Big Horn will be just a sample of what you could get from the Indians. It could happen.
Something to think about, my friends.
The orient started in Turkey and went east all the way to "The Japans". This derogatory term invented in British Imperialist/expansionist times basically all of those peoples who weren't white and British. For reference, have you ever heard of the Orient Express it terminated in Istanbul, or you could try Wikipedia.
The first casualty of republicanism is the truth.
Party politics are not only undemocratic, they are antidemocratic.
They knew nothing of Japan- or China or India for that matter- when they started using the word oriental. It meant those places and people from the eastern end of the Mediterranean and east of that. Originally, that meant as far east as the eastern border of Persia. So the Greeks of Asia Minor were Orientals, as well as Egyptians and the peoples of Judea and Israel.
Just sayin'...
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
Byzantine: It was coined in the 18th or 19th Century by academics, in order to differentiate the Western Roman Empire that collapsed in 476 A.D. from the Eastern Roman Empire, which lasted until 1453. The people we call Byzantine called themselves Romans.
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
In between try Google and Wikipedia, The Orient starts in Turkey.
The first casualty of republicanism is the truth.
Party politics are not only undemocratic, they are antidemocratic.
John Stossel getting bi**h slapped - priceless!
If I were a psychopath, I would join the republican party, and get in on the gravy train taking the Teabircher morons to the cleaners.
as if "socialism" existed in the period, 1824-1870
I've just been reading History of American Socialisms by John Humphrey Noyes at Project Gutenberg, first published in 1870, detailing socialist experiments in America dating back to the 18th century.
me is ...HOW CAN A JEW RIDICULE ANY GROUP , WITHOUT A FKNG CONSCIENCE...?-DIDN'T HITLER WAKE UP AT LEAST ONE GROUP OF IDIOTS ABOUT THE IGNORANCE OF BIGOTRY...?-IT SEEMS SO FKNG UNBELIEVABLE...Our basic response towards 'unfamiliar people',(or the unknown),is fear, through aggression or ridicule,belittling etc.,when are we, as an intelligent,(ha,ha), species,going to promote this behavior, and instill it in our society.Being one of the first hominids on this continent,"Native Peoples,(descendants of Clovis),have endured over 400 years of extermination. Since populations at the time of Columbus, appx. 12 million-20million,(depending on the studies),to today's population of around 2.5 million...Many more awful, merciless, deaths,by far, than the Holocaust in Nazi Germany,for any one specific group of people.---Along with an "Unimaginable Time Frame of a Relentless Persecution of 'Woman,Children',and of course the Warrior Men".---Man behaving bad towards Man, is nothing to do with Gods and Devils...just "our pure ignorance" is to blame.We just wear different "skins" today,than before.We are still afraid of the world we 'exist' in.I say 'exist',because for the vast majority of people today, it is not 'living'...Stossel is a poor excuse of a 'survivors heritage'.He should be shamed.An 'ass kicking' would be welcomed news, too.
"Blind faith, in anything, guides the mindless"-Le Mien,
WOW, I did not realize such ignorance still exsisted in 2011! John, the white man ( I am a white female) has taken everything from the Indians, yes, we stole their land, got them drunk to make them put their thumbprint on the papers so we could take their land. We made promises which have never been kept. The Native Ameicans have sat back and taken whatever has been dished out to them which is damn little..
they have lost their religious beliefs because of the white man being afraid to understand, they have some of that back now but it is still looked upon as evil or wicked, when in truth, it is beauty, peace and life.
I lived on the reservation, many of my friends are Native Americans and they all work, they all own pieces oof land, or something, I suggest you go back to school, or go learn from an elder what they as a people have lost of suffered though because of the white man.....how very disturbed you are....
Thanks for your concerns,,
The poor guy (stossell) obviously has not been educated to understand the concept of what america is about to the natives that have been her for thousands of years before the imposition of others. Where, Mr know it all, are the solutions???? You seem to know everything but you have no solutions, the lumbees have no self identity, no language, they are as white as you are. Are you asking that the rest of the natives should become assimilated and as white as you and the lumbees? I would rather stay poor (according to your standards) then give up my identity and become so capitalistic that I don't know who I am. I am a Lakota and I plan to give my grandchildren the same identity. I work for a living and I know if given the opportunity, so will the rest of my people.
ione quigley
So he questions whether dependency on federal aid is good for Native Americans, highlights Native Americans doing well, and he's a bigot? I don't agree with calling people names "socialists" e,g, but maybe I'm missing something. Where's the rife bigotry? Is it wrong to point out that reservation life has done Native Americans no favors? We cannot debate that as a society? If so, welcome to the left's version of the Tea Party.
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